{"id":5584,"date":"2017-05-24T12:47:06","date_gmt":"2017-05-24T16:47:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/benies-blogs.com\/general\/?p=5584"},"modified":"2017-05-25T12:43:39","modified_gmt":"2017-05-25T16:43:39","slug":"hello-darkness-my-old-friend-ive-come-to-talk-with-you-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/benies-blogs.com\/general\/2017\/05\/24\/hello-darkness-my-old-friend-ive-come-to-talk-with-you-again\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Hello darkness, my old friend&#8230; I&#8217;ve come to talk with you again.&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;You cou-ldn&#8217;t stop the beeeeep&#8217;ing, because it started beeee&#8217;ep&#8217;ing again! When I turrrrr-rrrrned on, MY COMPUTEEERRRR THIS AFTerrrr-noon! Oh woe is me&#8230; Why do I puuuuut uuuup, with this shit?!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Now I&#8217;m going to miss the meetuuuuup. I promised I would make it todayyyyy&#8230; because you had to FUCKING BEEP!! And the CPU OOOOVVVVer-heatiiiing! Why caaaaan&#8217;t YOUUUU..JUST FUCKING WORK IN my faaaavorrr?!? Oh who am I kiddiiiinggg? I should had NEVEEERRRRRR&#8230; upgradeeeeeddd!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I thought I had it, guys. I thought I had a hold on this issue. But no&#8230; turned on my computer this afternoon, as normal.. and now my computer is beeping and pretending it&#8217;s a sheep again.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m now convinced there&#8217;s a flaw in this brand new motherboard. I don&#8217;t know who caused it, if it&#8217;s the guy that installed my hardware (by mistake)&#8230; or this CPU still. The CPU, it&#8217;s possible it could have a flaw in it (possibly from being in my old board).<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m almost desperate enough to enlist Tulsi&#8217;s help here (like, maybe this Saturday), in removing the board to remove the cooler, to remove the CPU, and then replace it with my old 4350&#8230;and see if that fixes the *beep* issue. I KNEW it couldn&#8217;t be the RAM, because I never had an issue with it before! And frankly, this is pretty much the SAME type of board (and it supports the type of RAM I use, like my old board)!<br \/>\nSo it&#8217;s <strong>got<\/strong> to be the CPU. Course, I could say this now, and then have the old CPU in there&#8230;and there&#8217;s still a chance it could beep again.<\/p>\n<p>Reported to the thread. Sometime today, I should get my next course of action. Watch this space.<\/p>\n<p>.<br \/>\nEDIT: Wow, that was fast. And the best thing of all, it ended with a facepalm (of the guy saying &#8220;I told you the CPU was leaking heat&#8221;). It&#8217;s the CPU. I knew it was from the start. I have no business owning it.<br \/>\nSo this is the &#8220;temp fix&#8221;. Not the fix I was looking for, but it seems it&#8217;s the only way now.<\/p>\n<p>So&#8230;I seems that&#8217;s that, guys. There&#8217;s really nothing else I can do about this. I&#8217;ve done everything that MVP Bluntman(guy on the E:D Discovery Discord) and I have thought of. There&#8217;s no point in responding to the thread now (even though I did and made myself look like a dumbass (as usual) by saying Newegg needs to post better info for people who aren&#8217;t tech-savvy (such as &#8220;this CPU requires watercooling&#8221;).<br \/>\nWould be a great title for that one thing I&#8217;ve seen on Youtube, of &#8220;If X was honest with us&#8221;. &#8220;If PC Hardware Manufactures were honest with us.&#8221; I can just see the episode now. AMD would be talking about the 9590, and it&#8217;s on fire.. literally, and they have to use a fire extinguisher on it&#8230;and it isn&#8217;t stopping the fire because the fucking thing can&#8217;t cool itself down! Haha..oh god, make it happen.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m faced with two options;<br \/>\n1. Deal with the beeping (and the potential risk of permanent damage to the hardware of it continuously shutting itself down during POST), and use my computer for gaming  the best I can (until June), when I&#8217;m able to get my old hardware back in..and say FUCK YOU to this problem once and for all!!<br \/>\n2. Do the above, by myself (AHAHAHAHA&#8230;no).<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s also another expensive threat (that has to wait &#8217;till June). And that was the fact Bluntman is away seeing his father at the hospital and I&#8217;m on my own again (so I ask the Discord server for help again. They asked for my PSU, and I told them thinking &#8220;ehh, this shouldn&#8217;t be a problem&#8221; until I also added &#8220;I had it for many years&#8221;. Then reality hits me with a pile of bricks (ouch) and tells me that even though it&#8217;s a 650W&#8230;the output is degrading with time. I don&#8217;t even remember when I bought it, but I&#8217;m guessing around 2011 (so it isn&#8217;t <em>that<\/em> old, if that&#8217;s when I bought it).<br \/>\nStill, I got enough on my plate. I don&#8217;t need a potentially failing PSU to be added to it!<br \/>\nBasically, they&#8217;re thinking the CPU could be asking too much of my power&#8230; no shit, that&#8217;s what the thread&#8217;s telling me! That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m getting the beeps!<\/p>\n<p>The conversion continued on, with Dezent chipping in and explaining of an option mentioned to him for me (of lowering the number of cores to 4 or 6). I still remember when I asked the FTB Discord if this is a valid thing to do for Modded Minecraft, and they said &#8220;you don&#8217;t&#8221;; aka &#8220;you can&#8217;t change the number of cores&#8221;. Clearly this was false, as there is (through Windows). Dezent showed me where to go, and I lowered it to 6. If this would fix the beeping (when I leave it off and go to bed), I guess I&#8217;ll find out tomorrow.<br \/>\nYou know me, though..I have my doubts. I feel that having less cores is actually harder on the CPU (as it can&#8217;t spread its workload as evenly).<br \/>\nBut I&#8217;ve decided to try a stress test with the 6-cored CPU, with 22x Multiplier and 1.4V CPU VID. Will run it for 30 minutes and see if I get that spike I saw yesterday at the 15 minute mark. If the CPU behaves OK in 30 minutes, I&#8217;ll play around with the settings some more and see just how much juice I can get out of this thing (while keeping temps below 61*C).<\/p>\n<p>25 minutes later, and the results are in. The fact it stayed below 60*C at 22x Multiplier (where it did the exact opposite yesterday) is quite impressive. However, I noticed something that proved even more that this CPU is quite unpredictable. I decided to let it run past 25 minutes (when it started to cool itself down), and it was a good thing as I would had never had noticed the CPU suddenly spiking to 60, and then going back down to 54*C.<br \/>\nHeh, when you think you have it under control, it says &#8220;NOPE&#8221; and does this. I knew it didn&#8217;t matter how many cores I&#8217;m limiting, as the CPU just won&#8217;t play nice. The fact I had to underclock it (with only 6 cores) is crazy enough.<\/p>\n<p>So now we go over the second option, of instead of waiting &#8217;till June of doing the work myself (and save some money). If installing hardware was as easy as installing Windows, then..well, for one the installer would be out of a job, but at least it&#8217;ll be a lot easier.<br \/>\nSadly, it&#8217;s not like this, and I&#8217;m forced to overcome my fear with thermal paste. But that&#8217;s a joke of itself (and I definitely proved it infront of Tulsi). Basically, I have this irrational, uncontrollable fear of getting something unfamiliar to me on my fingers, and feeling like I can&#8217;t get it off (no matter how much I wash my hands). This is especially true with thermal paste (due to the warnings about not getting it on skin (or eat it). Hell, I&#8217;m even scared of picking up a tube of the stuff (thinking it has residue that&#8217;ll get on my fingers).<br \/>\nI decided to try to clean the paste off of the stock cooler. Took 6 paper towels and folded them up in a square shape. I made five slow swipes with as much elbow grease as I can get down on it. It only removed a quarter of it, and I think I see paste on the radiator.<br \/>\nWent into the bathroom and vigorously scrubbed my fingers to get off any residue. Checked them afterwords, and the &#8216;panic alarm&#8217; in my head started ringing as I could&#8217;ve sworn I saw gray on my left thumb. Scrub it again and look&#8230;and it&#8217;s still there. I couldn&#8217;t tell if it was paste or a vein. Went back to my computer, freaking out at Tulsi who thought I went insane or something. All and all, it turns out I was worried about nothing as I never got paste on my fingers. Yet I still have a fear that I do.<br \/>\nCan&#8217;t really blame him, but I hope you guys can&#8217;t really blame <em>me<\/em>. I&#8217;ll probably freak the fuck out if someone purposely put thermal paste on my finger.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, getting ready to shut down for the night. I&#8217;ll be making yet another post tomorrow to post my results.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;You cou-ldn&#8217;t stop the beeeeep&#8217;ing, because it started beeee&#8217;ep&#8217;ing again! When I turrrrr-rrrrned on, MY COMPUTEEERRRR THIS AFTerrrr-noon! Oh woe is me&#8230; Why do I puuuuut uuuup, with this shit?!&#8221; &#8220;Now I&#8217;m going to miss the meetuuuuup. 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